Red's Overpriced "Mini Mag" Cards - The Real Story

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    Red Digital Cinema has come under fire recently over allegations that their Mini-Mag storage cards are just cheap commodity SSDs in a fancy enclosure. As it turns out, there's some truth to these assertions, but the situation is not quite as simple as it's made out to be. Let's unwrap it.
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  • Johannes Dolch
    Johannes Dolch Gün önce

    So, y'all are fine with spending as much on a camcorder as a fully outfitted Mercedes E Class, but then complain that the cards they sell are too expensive? lol. But I agree, they should put the best in there, meaning 2 of the best SSDs they can find in a Raid 1 Configuration. (That would actually also justify putting it all in a cool proprietary cartridge.

  • RamenGod
    RamenGod Gün önce

    Lmao imagine using fat32

  • joshua41175
    joshua41175 3 gün önce

    So when is the red camera water cooler done

  • BlockArchitech
    BlockArchitech 3 gün önce

    Notice: if your going to make a comment saying ‘oh proceeds to show USA markings’ note that he got his before the entire scandal happened

  • Me 2
    Me 2 5 gün önce

    them R&D monies are 100% used to calc how to get the most profit out of nothing fooling people in the unknown.

  • Liam
    Liam 5 gün önce

    You didn't know they were just SSds in an enclosure? Thats what the industry is right now lol we do the same thing in our products.

  • sprrocket
    sprrocket 5 gün önce

    Linus: RED splits the video footage into 4GB files
    me: wait are they STILL using fat32
    Linus: it's because they're using fat32

    skdjflaksjdflkasjdf

    • Gabriel I
      Gabriel I 3 gün önce

      sprrocket hmm fat32 isn’t bad its still a staple around the gaming market like Motherboard os updates

  • roblax87
    roblax87 5 gün önce

    Great job documenting the bots!

  • nitrxgen
    nitrxgen 6 gün önce

    1:30 what kind of psychopath uses a screwdriver like THAT WTF

  • Titan Gaming
    Titan Gaming 8 gün önce

    could have said, 'Made on Earth'

  • Ionixt E. Bix
    Ionixt E. Bix 8 gün önce

    im surprised that linus actually tried to protect the company that pretty much scam him

  • Solomon Ucko
    Solomon Ucko 8 gün önce

    The size inconsistency could also be due to unit confusion: 476.8 GiB ≈ 512 GB, 480 GiB ≈ 515.4 GB, 931.3 GiB ≈ 1 TB, 960 GiB ≈ 1.031 TB

  • DragonNexus
    DragonNexus 9 gün önce +4

    "Red claims this is to protect the user from accidental deletions"
    *Off camers scoffing laugh*

  • Darian Kimberly
    Darian Kimberly 9 gün önce

    Welp, never getting a red.

  • mirk bir
    mirk bir 11 gün önce

    Hehehehehe!

  • Sonny12681
    Sonny12681 12 gün önce

    I bet it costs less than $5 to manufacture this camera and it's parts and they jack up the price to a ridiculous about. That company is committing a scam.

  • MISC BITS
    MISC BITS 13 gün önce

    Msata is still a thing?

  • carphotography101
    carphotography101 14 gün önce

    I hope this was filmed on a RED Cinema camera...

  • Peter Chiung
    Peter Chiung 14 gün önce +1

    basically RED Ceo wants to profit as much as possible at the expense of customers tricking them that they are getting a far better product.

  • Informed Choice
    Informed Choice 14 gün önce

    Oh, a shitty greedy company overcharging without justification. Red Dead Non-Redemption

  • John Grimes
    John Grimes 16 gün önce

    WTF? Spare area? You mean over provisioning? Come on linus you know better then that. Use proper terms please. Its never good to teach people improper terminology.

  • John Grimes
    John Grimes 16 gün önce

    Maybe dont rip people off and people wont rip off your ideas. Fuck Red. Camera price is understandable but all the peripherals? Insane...

  • Dakota Martin
    Dakota Martin 17 gün önce

    0:59
    First time I've ever heard a Canadian say "ya'll"

  • Gordon The Train
    Gordon The Train 18 gün önce

    I can't believe it. Linus! Linus! is protecting red. this is weird because he wasn't to happy when he bought it

  • Sun Pak
    Sun Pak 22 gün önce

    lmao red also sells a basic SSD reader for $250
    www.red.com/red-station-mini-mag-usb-3

    A 9 foot LITERAL CAT 5 to proprietary fake cat 5 port for $120
    www.red.com/RED-GIG-E-Right-to-CAT5E-Ethernet-Cable-9
    a "tactical" handle for $150
    www.red.com/dsmc2-universal-handle

  • Kerim Kerim
    Kerim Kerim 23 gün önce +1

    Nobody: I'm about to end this guy's entire career.
    Not even a single soul: Everybody
    Me: Wait that's illegal.
    TRclips's Recommendations: It's free real estate.
    Am I a joke to you:
    Also Me:

  • SOL WOLF
    SOL WOLF 23 gün önce

    Linus will go down in history as a legend

  • The Adventure Biker
    The Adventure Biker 23 gün önce

    I am late to the partay. Just.....Wow.

  • kasa
    kasa 24 gün önce

    I think jinn1mag should be called out for their false statements. But I'm glad they are out there and vent viral. Red is still charging obscene amount of money for an adapter. And on top of that they have clearly taken steps to stop user from using third party drives. Even though they are using standard hardware that could be very easily changed if not for manufactured obstructions.
    Also, it's true that it's ultimately on customer to decide. But it's kind of messed up if customer had to do in depth research on every product they buy to be assured they get real value. I think Jinn1Mag did service to people by bringing awareness to this.
    Ultimately as far as Red mini mag is concerned, everything about it is designed to take as much money from people as possible. I mean recovery service is just another way justify the price and low quality. You could just as well take it to any other recovery service as the hardware is standard. I wouldn't be surprised at all actually if they used third party service for recovery anyway.
    Reading worker reviews about red kind of gives me image that Red's management is just bunch of greedy assholes.

  • TheRealCritique
    TheRealCritique 24 gün önce

    F RED. Other companies are catching up to their proprietary BS and offering equivalent quality at 20% of the price. They blew it. Hope they collapse.

  • Ionixt E. Bix
    Ionixt E. Bix 24 gün önce

    why tf is linus defending a money-eating company lol

  • Masterpj555
    Masterpj555 25 gün önce

    Red camera is a scam company who makes lots of claims about inventing things but actually is just a company who repurposes tech > puts it in a different enclosure and then adds lockout chips. Don't support this company

  • Ariana Hadley
    Ariana Hadley 25 gün önce +1

    15 mins of my life I will never get back

  • TheImmoralCookie
    TheImmoralCookie 25 gün önce

    To be fair, you could probably find a few hundred computer engineers that could design their own SSDs like Red's and it be either free or really fucking cheap.

  • Ayoub
    Ayoub 27 gün önce +20

    samsung: sells good SSD's for a low price
    RED: wait, thats illigal!!

  • Gonçalo Alegria
    Gonçalo Alegria 28 gün önce

    What a shill

  • Rakesh Battula
    Rakesh Battula 28 gün önce +1

    hope they had a better explanation to save their faces

  • MinecraftMike
    MinecraftMike 28 gün önce

    I was on RED's side until I saw the price for that SSD. What a joke kek

  • Robert Wright
    Robert Wright 29 gün önce

    Excellent video!

  • William Creegan
    William Creegan 29 gün önce

    Nice job Linus .

  • Kyle Robertson
    Kyle Robertson 29 gün önce +1

    My question here becomes this, if u don't like what a company is doing, and evidently have complaints about their product, why do u still use it.

    Annnddd, if the answer is "it's the best product for us" or something, then stop whining

    • Shanee Bahera
      Shanee Bahera 13 gün önce

      he isnt whining about them, its because this blew up a few months ago and people were asking him to adress it

  • T B
    T B Aylar önce

    DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Linus went off

  • ZoeBios121
    ZoeBios121 Aylar önce

    Red has engineered a raid 1 solution. You're using it wrong. You're supposed to buy 2 complete rigs and 2 people to operate the two rigs.

  • AJComputerServicesUK
    AJComputerServicesUK Aylar önce

    12:03 hahahahaha 😂

  • vegoutwithvegge
    vegoutwithvegge Aylar önce

    Now that someone else's video has gone viral its time to copy it.

  • The Glow Cloud
    The Glow Cloud Aylar önce

    Here's a novel solution: STOP GIVING YOUR MONEY TO RED. Why do TRclipsrs who get big enough think they all have to buy overpriced Red bullshit? Fuck them.

    • The Glow Cloud
      The Glow Cloud Aylar önce

      I'd suggest Sony F35/F65, Panavision Genesis, Arri D-21 or the newer Alexa, or a Thompson Viper.

    • Loreaver
      Loreaver Aylar önce

      What other camera would you recommend?

  • MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS
    MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS Aylar önce

    Wait y’all did some editing after the fact. I didn’t know you can add more images and voice over after the fact. TRclips editing getting more advanced

  • RectalDiscourse
    RectalDiscourse Aylar önce

    The only mags I have experience with are pornographic

  • MrManiac3
    MrManiac3 Aylar önce

    Hey Linus, TRclips really doesn't want me to subscribe so just for the record I'm subscribed

  • hclchgm
    hclchgm Aylar önce

    Again you should have purchased a Hasselblad. For the price of one of those failure prone cards you could have purchased a better camera. Red ripped you off. Suckers born every minute.

    • hclchgm
      hclchgm 26 gün önce

      @MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS Hey, just a thought, but when a company repackages OTS components and then marks it up 1000% it kind of falls into the realm of deception on the part of the Red team. At least with a Hassellblaad you get what you pay for without any of those repackaged cards using FAT32 being sold to you for 10 times the real retail cost per card.
      Just my 2c. Thanks to LTT for ripping one apart and giving a fair and honest review as it will save many others from getting duped.

    • MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS
      MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS Aylar önce

      What are you talking about? Hasselblad’s are brilliant Photo cameras, but are capped at 4K video (most still doing only 1080P). Also the most expensive red card is still about half the price of hasselblad camera. Not including the special medium format lenses you need for them. I don’t believe everyone needs a RED and at first I was even critical given how little Linus seemed to know in his why are red camera so expensive video a while back. However, Brandon is their DP for Linus Media Group, and in his video he made it clear they need a RAW camera with the highest pixel resolution possible for reframing. Their only option is RED. Watching this channel Brandon has proved he isn’t some fly by night DP who just wanted the most expensive thing because Linus could afford it. Their was thought put into what’s necessary for the growth of Linus Media Group.

  • TheGamersTag 1
    TheGamersTag 1 Aylar önce

    Red is a rip-off all together

  • psycronizer
    psycronizer Aylar önce

    ting....go with ting, or we'll send the P'ting to deal with you....gobble gobble gobble....

  • psycronizer
    psycronizer Aylar önce

    as soon as Linus says..speaking of, or brought to you by..I immediately fast forward a couple of minutes, it's a reflex response nowadays....total muscle memory..I don't even have to think about it....

  • Jxshua Yuzn
    Jxshua Yuzn Aylar önce

    Imagine using the price of an Intel Optane to buy a normal ssd

  • Sleepy Pierrot
    Sleepy Pierrot Aylar önce

    Did you blow it to clean it, Linus? I think its too dirty...

  • Alexandru Marzenco
    Alexandru Marzenco Aylar önce +1

    Actually, when designing industrial or professional gear that isn't expected or planned to sell in large quantities (typically less then 50.000 but numbers vary depending on the manufacturer) engineers choose to use pre-made modules instead of going into the trouble of custom designing their own; try taking apart some badass expensive network gear, i'm talking 100.000+ USD per unit network gear; for example a Cisco ASR 9910, not really sure how expensive it is, but it's a perfect example
    Each and every single expansion card you can buy has a crap ton of off the shelf modules, i saw the PCB for the RP card, with it's just it's brains so to speak; it had off the shelf DC-DC converters everywhere, even the VRMs for the CPU were like that, off the shelf NON REDUNDANT WD Blue SSD, 512GB i remember, expandable RAM since it wasn't soldered, instead of ASIC's for communicating with the rest of the system it had FPGA chips (yes, FPGA are used when custom silicon isn't an option)
    Same goes for another Infinera rack i've seen, even for blade servers it's still true.
    Now, remember that 512GB non redundant SSD in the ASR 9910?
    Instead of making the board itself redundant, they made you buy 2 and yes, it makes sense to have 2 for redundancy anyway, but why not making the boards themselves redundant?
    RED cameras... are also pro gear that don't sell in large quantities, they might as well just manufacture them on demand in small batches, of course they will try to shove their fist up your ass to keep getting money from you since they don't sell many, it's exactly what apple does with the iphone and it's ecosystem, but there's no SATA SSD inside it
    And the marketing lies? Well you gotta give the reasons to customers to buy your product don't you?
    Maybe some customers look for reliability even on the storage format since it's expensive and proprietary, when you sell in small quantities you gotta make sure you take all the chances to sell it to any potential customer.
    Fair? Of course not but it's just how capitalism works.

  • AEIOU
    AEIOU Aylar önce

    Damn. Blew them both apart here Linus. Can't believe this is even a thing, Red why?

  • therealandylee
    therealandylee Aylar önce

    Let's buy 1000 of dollars for mini pcie STORAGE than usually costs 50-100 for just one 256gb. The fuck

  • STS
    STS Aylar önce +1

    Lol “thanks to red for sponsoring this video” 😂😂😂

  • Shrilesh Korgaonkar
    Shrilesh Korgaonkar Aylar önce

    Awesome info guys
    Can u guys create a custom made option