10 Great Movies That Inadvertently Ruined Cinema

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  • BaldAvenger320
    BaldAvenger320 3 gün önce

    Men in Black started a rise in Buddy movies. A few were good, but for every good one, you got an RIPD, which looked it was made from the shreds on MIB's cutting room floor.

  • Al69BfR
    Al69BfR 4 gün önce

    What about all those reboots, where the studios starting the story from zero again to tell it a little bit different with different actors? Was it Spiderman who started this?

  • Nate DS
    Nate DS 15 gün önce

    When was the last time there was a truly brilliant movie twist? Like 2006,when the prestige came out?

  • Slyguy threeonetwonine
    Slyguy threeonetwonine 17 gün önce

    Anything with Leftist politics in it is ruined. You could include all of those in the "sequel" for this video.

  • brgessner
    brgessner 17 gün önce

    The Matrix and bullet time. By the time the sequel came out I and everyone else in the universe was over it.

  • Martin G
    Martin G 21 gün önce

    That last line..... " And that is just, so annoying". Great line.

  • John Miles
    John Miles 24 gün önce

    Besides the whole shared universe thing, marvel also brought back after credits scenes, people will stay to the end of anything now just to make sure

  • John Morris
    John Morris 24 gün önce

    Jules never remove your hat again

  • Snaketooth 09
    Snaketooth 09 24 gün önce

    i think "THor: The Dark World" is an okay title and film.

  • Sebastian Contreras
    Sebastian Contreras 26 gün önce

    Deathly hallows did need to be 2 parts. Others no. At all. Specially mockingjay

  • SpongesonicPictures
    SpongesonicPictures 26 gün önce

    >Avatar
    >Great Movie
    Excuse me?

  • Laura Ess
    Laura Ess 26 gün önce

    Despite Mockingjay not needing a two parter, I was happy with what we got, because both parts were close to the book. When it comes to the 2 parter for teh DIVERGENT series I think it backfired , because the part one was so dreadful and rewritten from the book that part two never happened (and don't give me nonsense about a mini series to wrap it up).!!!

  • Jeremy Trenter
    Jeremy Trenter 27 gün önce

    BOONDOCK SAINTS was a great movie. I myself really liked it. Hope the 3rd one actually happens.

  • isaac glencross
    isaac glencross 27 gün önce

    inception did this too, now every action sequence needs a deep singular rumbling noise played over and over again, yay

  • Rachel Leeanne
    Rachel Leeanne 28 gün önce

    Not defending breaking dawn but wasn’t the last book literally in two parts?

  • Daniel Greenwell
    Daniel Greenwell Aylar önce

    So the “Dark world” thing was something maleikith referenced in the comics...he references it in the movies as well

  • GameHammer Classic Gaming

    How does this video not include The Matrix ruining action & sci-fi films for decades?

  • FranktheDachshund
    FranktheDachshund Aylar önce

    Splitting the final movie in two is fine if it is a great story and two well made movies.

  • Jayne Davis
    Jayne Davis Aylar önce

    I can’t watch 3D because I get migraines when I try but I feel like Avatar might be worth it

  • Peter Kelly
    Peter Kelly Aylar önce

    Die hard was a great movie and now there is so many movies similar to it that I've lost count

  • Emp6ft10in
    Emp6ft10in Aylar önce

    "The Matrix", made all actions movies that followed go for the most impossible action sequences. It was fine in "The Matrix", because in the actual plot they were in a giant computer simulation but in all other movies that tried to out do them -- seeing someone do these similar impossible things because they are a trained spy and some shit just makes it impossible for me to suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy the movie.

  • Noxxon -
    Noxxon - Aylar önce

    Night of the Living Dead is an obvious choice. LOL

  • Will Gc
    Will Gc Aylar önce

    Also, Avatar coming out the same day as The Princess and the Frog meant that fewer people went to see Princess compared with if it had come out at another time with less competition. As such, Disney thought that 2D animation was not so profitable and ceased doing it. Every other animation studio followed suit.

  • Winter Now
    Winter Now Aylar önce

    What is "Heaven's Gate" doing on this list? Also, Harry Potter's last book was definitely big enough for 2 movies - and even if it wasn't we could easily blame "Spiderman 3" for proving the opposite - that one movie can;t contain enough material for 2 stories.

  • Bruno Gonçalves
    Bruno Gonçalves Aylar önce

    Splitting movies in two... Wasn't Kill Bill that started the trend?

  • C Summers
    C Summers Aylar önce +1

    The Blair Witch Project and the Paranormal Activity films, followed by all the shitty handheld camera cash-in movies. I don't watch a haunted house/ghost/possession movie for the characters or character development. EVERY P.A. film set up the characters/families as being normal, doing everyday things for the first 30-60 minutes. To me it felt like watching an episode or two of Keeping Up With The Kardashians, until spooky things started to happen. Corny dialogue too, and they tried too hard to set up twists and surprise endings.

  • Michael Mallory
    Michael Mallory Aylar önce

    I don’t think the 3D in Avatar is anything special, the film that made me interested in 3D was My Bloody Valentine which had more convincing 3D than boring Avatar.

  • FS Vapes
    FS Vapes Aylar önce

    Movies based on books should be split up if they can’t fit all the development and key details in the story into a 2 and a half hour block.

  • Nina Greenshields
    Nina Greenshields Aylar önce

    Definitely disagree with the two-parter point. Sometimes it is necessary to have two movies. Deathly Hallows was definitely one of those times as there was a lot of source material to work with. Movies like Mockingjay and Twilight definitely did not need two-parters.

  • Dean F.
    Dean F. Aylar önce

    You thought HEAVEN'S GATE was a great movie? It was four painful hours of pretentious self-indulgence!

  • Orecon 125
    Orecon 125 Aylar önce

    No.3 was unreasonable. Subtitles are kinda cool. They aren't useless

  • Backyard Stranger
    Backyard Stranger Aylar önce

    Fight sequences with camera changes.

  • Backyard Stranger
    Backyard Stranger Aylar önce

    Cinematic Universe concept.

  • Baddog
    Baddog Aylar önce

    There's a difference between shaky cam and hand held camera work. Saving Private Ryan uses hand held camera work.

  • el_magico
    el_magico 2 aylar önce

    So true

  • Yurek Hunt
    Yurek Hunt 2 aylar önce

    So according to you, Steven Spielberg - the most successful director in history - has destroyed cinema??? Fucking idiots!

  • Mad Mastah
    Mad Mastah 2 aylar önce +1

    I wouldn’t e surprised if more rated R superhero movies come out, Deadpool’s 1 and 2, and Logan

  • smokefan4000
    smokefan4000 2 aylar önce +1

    So he doesn't like it when a sequel is followed by a number, but he also doesn't like it when a sequel has a subtitle. Interesting...

  • TeaandFiona
    TeaandFiona 2 aylar önce

    Pulp fiction was crap

  • ändrew Salter
    ändrew Salter 2 aylar önce +1

    I think Bryan Adams song from robin hood and Whitney Houstons song from the bodyguard was when the song from movies became huge again in the 90s !!! Especially I will always love you as it was number 1 for months!!

  • asdfghj sdfgg
    asdfghj sdfgg 2 aylar önce

    and then there's the hobbit...

  • Sarah Tey
    Sarah Tey 2 aylar önce +1

    I have to disagree with 3. I think sequels should have interesting names and GET RID OF the stupid first half of the title Episode IV or Hunger Games. Everything. Error the colon can go.
    As for point 1, I think Deathly Hallows (the book) has enough content to justify 2 parts (but not the way the movie did it). Hunger Games and Twilight absolutely could have finished the story in one movie. There is no cinematic reason Breaking Dawn needed to be 2 movies at all.

  • Cassandra Haley
    Cassandra Haley 2 aylar önce +1

    Deathly Hallows was the only film that had any real reason to be split in 2. They needed to put as much detail as possible in it from the books so that the fans(who a lot of have been fans of the books and films since they were very young) wouldn’t feel cheated out of an amazing film adaptation of a massive book. The ones that followed, however, were completely unnecessary and only done as a way to make twice the money.

  • mark borishnikoff
    mark borishnikoff 2 aylar önce

    I think hobbit is the one that did it the worst out of all movies that got split into multiple parts.

  • LibbyRoseITM
    LibbyRoseITM 2 aylar önce

    I also agree that H.P. 7 didn't need the split... H.P. 5 on the other hand... That book gave readers sooo much character progression and important information and is the longest book but the film is the shortest in the series and doesn't really do anything for the characters :/

  • LibbyRoseITM
    LibbyRoseITM 2 aylar önce

    Aaah so now I know which film to blame for shaky cam! It makes me feel sooo motion sick, I hate it :(

  • The Grey
    The Grey 2 aylar önce

    Dude, these aren’t video games, people are happy to have one film turned into two full length films. No one is complaining 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • 101Futile
    101Futile 2 aylar önce

    3:20 NOPE! What Spielberg used in Saving Private Ryan was basically handheld stabilized camera. If you want to blame someone for shaky cam, blame Paul Greengrass and Bourne trilogy. The problem isn't shaky cam itself, handheld even less, but bad directors using shaky cam to hide bad acting.

  • Boris Müller
    Boris Müller 2 aylar önce +1

    Another reason Jaws was such a hit was it was the first big summer release after cinemas began air-conditioning. The cinema wasn’t just a fun place to go; it was also nice and cool during a hot summer.

  • Katy Morris
    Katy Morris 2 aylar önce +1

    From 1991 with Bryan Adams 'everything I Do' from robin hood Prince of thieves,' 1992 Whitney Houston ' I will always love you' from the bodyguard etc.. . I doubt there is 1 year during the 90s that there wasn't a blockbuster film whose theme song dominated the charts. Unfortunately I am old enough to remember titanic being released and at the time no one was surprised that it had a song released that did well in the charts because it was an extreamly well established gimic. Before that I'm fairly sure all the James bond films had an accompanying song that more often that not topped the charts and they have been since the 60s. The 80s had it's fair share of film theme songs that topped the charts, rockys eye of the tiger being an obvious example.
    I haven't researched this topic these are just the examples that came to mind when titanic was credited in the video as influencing movie/song releases. I'm guessing whoever researched this is young and not very knowledgeable on film/music.

  • Gi Bo
    Gi Bo 2 aylar önce +1

    The Matrix .. There was a copy cat thread and all action movies after the matrix had to have that slow-mo 360 camera view effect

  • TeamSukiyo
    TeamSukiyo 2 aylar önce

    Pretty sure The Usual Suspects started the twist trend

  • Martin McKee
    Martin McKee 2 aylar önce

    One thing missed which is slightly connected to the "making movie themes cool again" is the family movies requiring a big song and dance finale. I'm not sure what started it, maybe Shrek? But it is just the worst goddamn trend. A kids movie doesn't need that to be good. In fact it seems the really good ones don't have it. Then you get shite like the Lego movie which because it is so shite, has to put in a big song at the end to make you think the movie was OK because the song is catchy. I HATE IT!

  • Kpopislife16
    Kpopislife16 2 aylar önce

    I think that splitting the Deathly Hallows into two parts was actually a smart choice simply because the movie would've been way too long for the audience to sit through. Our attention spans aren't that great so sitting through a 6 or 7 hour movie would get really old really quick. It's been a handful of movies that were over 2 hours long such as Ray, Titanic, Avatar & The GodFather pt 2. But seven hours is a bit much dontcha think?. I feel that the Deathly Hallows films were an awesome end to the series that I grew up on. #Potterheadforlife 💕🍻😁

  • Mutt Hatter
    Mutt Hatter 2 aylar önce

    Okay I get the split sucks nowadays but dude Harry Potter and the deathly hallows took me forever to read, that book is super thicc

  • Darran Clarke
    Darran Clarke 3 aylar önce

    The PC SJW Feminist movement has killed the cinema, all films are formula products now, safe bets, watered down remakes of better movies, horror movies by safe numbers, films awkwardly upgrading women into the stronger roles and men looking weak (not that this is a bad thing at all if it adds to the movie but now its simply to combat the alleged male privilege issue) and all films desperately trying to be diverse and PC, to the extent an actor can not act the role unless he is politically, nationality and diverse enough to do it,,,,,which defeats casting the actor to,,,,well, act basically.
    all in all the cinema is dull and very predictable today.

  • Paul
    Paul 3 aylar önce

    That's why we download illegally because we've had enough paying good money for half a story or waiting ages for a sequel only for it to be nothing like the first!

  • king 304
    king 304 3 aylar önce +1

    To be honest, most these complaints are bullshit. Reason: Avengers 3 and 4.

  • r2b2ct1
    r2b2ct1 3 aylar önce +1

    I don't get the OT Star Wars thing. All of the titles from the OT made perfect sense and were quite basic and descriptive. I get that you are claiming that they were great movies but started a bad trend, but I don't see how we can level the blame on them. If anything, they would have bucked the trend...

  • Dr. Syn
    Dr. Syn 3 aylar önce

    The last four Harry Potter books should have been cut in half, but ya the others didn't need it and was just a cash grab. Like Divergent, they hoped to cash in and then never finished, that really pissed me off. I wish all these book series would do it all at once like with the Lord of the Rings or just do them as TV series like Game of Thrones.

  • The Insane Times
    The Insane Times 3 aylar önce

    Ohh come on Harry potter split was justified, there is no way they would have covered all the plots in movie..

  • Snake Eyed Ghoul
    Snake Eyed Ghoul 3 aylar önce

    Thanks, Jaws, for introducing the world to mass saturation. Now I can't walk 3ft down the street without seeing some bullshit poster for a bullshit film with a bullshit name... like Despicable Me

  • Kaila Kruger
    Kaila Kruger 3 aylar önce

    Hunger Games and Twilight no but Harry Potter is needed to properly included all parts of the book.

  • Heather H
    Heather H 3 aylar önce

    To be fair, Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows actually did need two movies to tell the story properly. In fact, it could be argued that most of the Harry Potter movies could have benefitted from the split-in-two treatment since there was A LOT of the story from the books that never made it into the movies. Just saying.

  • Micheal McCaul
    Micheal McCaul 3 aylar önce

    Ugh...where's your one per list?

  • John Davis
    John Davis 3 aylar önce

    It's quite the stretch to call any of the harry potter films "great"

  • Space Gorilla
    Space Gorilla 3 aylar önce

    regardless is my dog's name

  • Space Gorilla
    Space Gorilla 3 aylar önce

    harry potter sucks regardless.

  • Lyle Abraham
    Lyle Abraham 3 aylar önce

    The Blair Witch Project. I would never call it a great movie in-fact I hate it from start to finish but it was popular enough to propel the "found footage" genre into the mainstream and spawned countless hand held camera atrocities that have plagued the industry since.

  • Todd Garver
    Todd Garver 3 aylar önce

    A better example of a movie split into two parts that didn't need it would be Kill Bill. The Harry Potter needed to be split as to have a satisfying conclusion. Kill Bill however could have had alot cut out and would have been a better film. Examples: every shot of the bride's feet(there's a good 45 mins cut there lol), and The anime sequence in the middle of the crazy 88 fight scene.

  • Warren Cancilla
    Warren Cancilla 3 aylar önce

    The makers of Harry Potter should have split every film after the first one so that they could include more necessary scenes instead of chopping them all down to the wooden story telling that results from "These are the scenes that are essential and required to have the story make sense... throw everything else away."

  • Evy2526
    Evy2526 3 aylar önce

    Harry Potter split was perfectly justified. Tons of scenes were essential to the plot and even then I think they left some important stuff. They could have made one movie, but the final battle would have been cut short so it would have felt underwhelming. Twilight though... completely stupid and pointless. One movie of her being pregnant wtf.

  • Beau Ferret
    Beau Ferret 3 aylar önce

    Star Wars in itself inadvertently ruined cinema. Hollywood has been endlessly copying the blockbuster trend of creating movies trilogies.

  • To the Bat Mobile
    To the Bat Mobile 3 aylar önce

    Whats A000349?

  • The No Life Gamer
    The No Life Gamer 3 aylar önce

    What do you mean boondocks saints was amazing

  • Arbaaz Saqlain
    Arbaaz Saqlain 3 aylar önce

    How about the marvel cinematic universe ruining the genre by adding corny jokes and plain plots? Any cbm without lame jokes these days are fucked by rotten tomatoes.

  • Hydro High-Danger
    Hydro High-Danger 3 aylar önce

    It would’ve been pretty much impossible to adapt the whole of the Deathly Hallows in one Film because that book is bloody long.

  • Alex Walker
    Alex Walker 3 aylar önce

    Armagedon used that stupid Aerosmith song 2 years before Titanic

  • Odysseus Rex
    Odysseus Rex 3 aylar önce

    FWIW, I let my wife drag me to the Twilight films. They're not bad. Even she didn't want to bother with seeing Part I of the final chapter. We waited, saw Part II, and both agreed there couldn't have been anything particularly important it Part I.

  • Johnny Jay
    Johnny Jay 3 aylar önce

    U could say the marvel franchise ruined movies too. Now studios all want a franchise to cash in with marvel. Best example is the Dark Universe which has been scrapped bc Tom Cruise wanted more screen time then the script originally called for and the mummy wasn’t that good bc it focused on one person instead of what it originally going for also DC figured they could do the same thing but rushed their projects to catch up when really all they needed to do was take their time.

  • Bolt Marksman
    Bolt Marksman 3 aylar önce

    The Saving Private Ryan part couldn't be more upsetting for me.

  • BeninemDE
    BeninemDE 3 aylar önce

    Am I the only one that thinks The Dark knight Trilogy ruined movies for a bit and Ruined DC to this day by giving is a dark and gritty reboot? I actually love Batman begins and The Dark knight is one of the best films ever made but my statement stands. I didn't mention dark knight rises because other than the bane fights and few set pieces the movie is really long drawn out and boring to me

  • Timothy Lockwood
    Timothy Lockwood 3 aylar önce

    I don’t really think that saving private Ryan introduced shakey cam. It was definitely the bourne franchise

  • Robert Madsen
    Robert Madsen 3 aylar önce

    "Star Wars: The last Jedi" ruined Lucasfilm/Disney's courage to produce Starwars movies. When they greenlighted Rian Johnsons approach to SW they weren't probably not aware what a crap movie he would come up with. After already pulling other directors from other franchise SW movies they let Johnson "do his thing" destroying completely their main attraction, the saga with beloved characters and those who were established in a movie before. Unfortunately the ticket sales for "Solo: a StarWars story" were low and they have now stalled plans for other "Star wars stories". As a fan I am pretty annoyed. Not just by the crap Episode 8 was but because the movie left no enthusiasm in me, no theory how Episode 9 would be. Usually a Starwars movie leaves you with anticipation how the story completes. But after the Johnson movie I lost all faith in my all time favorite movie series.. I am concerned that other film companies will follow the example and rething their high budget movie plans killing the chance for the fans to see some great stuff.

  • Piorn
    Piorn 3 aylar önce

    Fuck 3D! Just let me see a normal movie!

  • Tenucha
    Tenucha 3 aylar önce

    Kinda sad that Infinity War wasn't acknowledged for being a split film with Harry Potter and the Hobbit.
    Good as Infinity War is, it's praise seems to have turned a blind eye to a film that never actually ended. We know there's an Avengers 4: Infinity War 2 coming, but the film seems to be setting up a clean ending, allowing the movie to end on its own , but instead ended with a huge shake up and cliffhanger ending that just makes me feel like I have to wait a year to finish watching 1 movie.
    This is a practice that, say in Empire Strikes Back, was used however that movie ended in a way where it didn't rely on Return of the Jedi to carry over.
    Sequels are in a bad habit of no longer being self contained.

  • Jason Byrne
    Jason Byrne 3 aylar önce

    I hate these fucking movie channels. They just look for things to get annoyed at. Just enjoy the fucking movies. Screw this whatculture,screenrant,etc

  • NatCat
    NatCat 3 aylar önce

    Thor the dark world was named that because they were fighting a world of dark elves. Or maybe not, idk I can’t remember it wasn’t very good. 😂

  • MissVasques
    MissVasques 3 aylar önce

    The split of the last Harry Potter movies actually make sense to me going by the book itself.
    Smashing into one would make it feel quite rushed. I think ppl who think this splitup wasn’t needed was those who found the 7th to feel too slow and even boring but this is how it was in the actual book. Camping with the thrio after the wedding and wondering if Dumbledore really sent them on a mission they couldnt complete and delving deeper into the three characters when they are forced to live constantly together with no interactions with other people.
    The final battle was a process in itself, a Hunt for the supposed last horrcrux together with fighting scenes all leading up to final battle.
    It is a shame that they chose to exclude Dumbledore’s backstory though as this was what part of the 7th movie and its part of the book did lead up against; realising just how little you knew about Dumbledore.

  • MissVasques
    MissVasques 3 aylar önce

    The endbattle with & death of Voldemort had me so annoyed. It made little sense. If Harry would have been close enough to grab Voldie he would have died in a blink of an eye. No one else but Harry saw him die and Voldie death in itself was supposed show that beneath it all Voldemort was still a fragile human.

  • Westies are besties
    Westies are besties 3 aylar önce

    The second title thing was in books too. In fact many of these were in books, so you could blame the books. Tolkien was doing the second title thing about 30 years before George Lucas.

  • FantasyChick777
    FantasyChick777 3 aylar önce

    Deathly Hallows needed to be split into two movies to try and make up for the stuff that was cut out in the previous two movies.
    Twilight didn't need it. Mockingjay kind of did and BvS should have been two movies as it would have helped with the story

  • Hoy Toca Cine
    Hoy Toca Cine 3 aylar önce

    If they made one movie out of the Deathly Hollows, I would've been pissed. Making it two movies actually helped keep the integrity of the books. Hell, HBP and GoF lacked so much story because of the runtime.

  • Tom Brooks
    Tom Brooks 3 aylar önce

    The bourne trilogy and quick cut action scenes

  • Parker Pshebnisky
    Parker Pshebnisky 3 aylar önce

    I hate movie trends!

  • Anant kumar
    Anant kumar 3 aylar önce

    "muggle money" ha ha ha , very funny .

  • Roger Fredriksson
    Roger Fredriksson 3 aylar önce

    I hate blockbusters.(except Jaws)
    I hate ”Bruckheimer-style” action flicks.
    I hate sequels/prequels/reboots/remakes. (except Bladerunner 2049)
    I hate superhero movies.
    I love original movies.
    I love wellwritten scripts.
    I love thurough auteurs.
    I love characteristic actors.
    (not hollywood versions 101)
    That leaves me with GOOD movies imo.
    Why waste my time and money.
    Others hate MY choises. That’s fine.
    To each , his own.

  • Kate Day
    Kate Day 3 aylar önce

    I've been ranting about the split last movie thing since the trend sparked. Harry Potter did sort of need it because the last book in the series was twice as thick as all the others. Mockingjay didn't need it, Twilight Breaking Dawn DEFINITELY didn't need it, I think The Maze Runner did it too, but there is one instance where it failed and that was the Divergent series. And oh dear god The Hobbit... There was potentially enough material in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy to probably make two 1.5 hour movies each. Yet, the much more compact The Hobbit could have been done in a single 2 hour go. In fact the animated version did it just fine. Maybe two 1.5 hour movies, but 3 was just ridiculous. I didn't even bother to see the last one.

  • Kandi Gloss
    Kandi Gloss 3 aylar önce

    Godfather Part II was not the first sequel film to use a number, Quatermass 2 from 1956 predates it by two decades.

  • dan b
    dan b 3 aylar önce

    I‘ll definitely say that the MCU, while fantastic for marvel and led to probably one of the greatest movies of all time (infinity war) (sure it may not be the best, but it’s damn good, especially if you watched all the movies leading up to it)
    Anyway, while the MCU will probably be cinemas greatest success story of all time, because it’s so successful many studios are gonna copy it, and while inherently it’s good because it allows for story telling on a greater level, better world building, just like with avatar and the 3D movie, while good, unfortunately a lot of the people using it are using it poorly to get money, biggest point being the DCEU, so many of the movies are horrible and they are trying to jump in without doing the work that made marvel good, similar with movies and 3D, they use it to attract people but it backfires because they don’t put the work in that made 3D good.
    I’m curious to see how the monsterverse goes, 2 movies in and while both of them weren’t bad, they also weren’t that interconnected, and I don’t think the 3rd entry will do much connecting, it will obviously be a sequel, but it probably won’t be until entry 4 until it becomes properly interconnected.
    And to be honest marvel waited until it’s 6th movie for it to become interconnected with hints of it along the way as Easter eggs or end credit scenes.
    DCEU waited until it’s second entry to make things interconnected, maybe that’s why marvel is good, and by the same token maybe the monsterverse will be good.
    There aren’t really enough cinematic universes to know if it’s gonna be good or bad, it just depends if studios want to put the work in, also I’m not sure if the Star Wars universe counts as a cinematic universe, as it’s more a bunch of sequels and prequels, with currently 2 offshoots that don’t interconnect with the main story (due to all the characters dying or it just being a prequel of another character)