Why THE ORVILLE is BETTER than STAR TREK DISCOVERY

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  • NatureRecycleFlorida
    NatureRecycleFlorida 12 saatler önce

    the orville

  • milcoll73
    milcoll73 Gün önce

    STD can be distilled down to 1 line of dialog. micheal burnam; "im trying to save YOU all!" not "im trying to save US all!" . "im trying to save YOU all!" in other words "i know better than you whats good for you." a true elitist viewpoint.
    one thing STD has never explained. why isnt ok for klingons to stay klingons?

  • Mitch G
    Mitch G Gün önce

    The Orville's worst episode is better than STD'S best episode

  • TONY B the TECH TIGER

    Keeping it 💯!

  • Seadweller451D
    Seadweller451D 2 gün önce

    Können Sie empfehlen Medikamente für Furz und Durchfall? Ich Furz wie eine große Trompete. Vollen Klang, wie ein Kaiser Furz. Mein Durchfall fließt wie ein Fluss.

  • John Keller
    John Keller 3 gün önce

    Disco Sucks. Don't forget about how they plagiarized the entire premise of the show from a video game.

  • J.R. Regenold
    J.R. Regenold 4 gün önce

    STD Season 1 lost me about half way through the season. I have watched ST since the beginning, and STD isn't Star Trek.

  • Mr Zark
    Mr Zark 4 gün önce

    Funny how a Star Trek parody ended up being closer to the previous Star Trek shows than what is currently airing.

  • James OHara
    James OHara 4 gün önce

    one of the things that is problematic with the subtitles. reading the subtitles you are not looknig at the scene itself, it breaks the experience. not that i want to experience any STD :P

  • Michael ONeill
    Michael ONeill 4 gün önce

    Fortune cookies were created in America.

  • Dragoninthewest
    Dragoninthewest 4 gün önce

    STD could have still spelled the main character's name Michael but pronounced it like the French do which would sound like Michelle.

  • neil dunham
    neil dunham 5 gün önce

    You forget that the character Michael was raised on the planet Vulcan

  • dissident112
    dissident112 5 gün önce

    So after I finish watching Enterprise I should watch Orville. Check. Enterprise actually is up there with Deep Space Nine as my two favorite treks.. the whole temporal cold war episodes were very good television in retrospect. TNG and Voyager are also good but I'd rank it Enterprise=Deep Space nine>TNG>Voyager>Original Series for me. Discovery is like all the Terminator movies after the second one.... we just pretend that doesn't exist and is not canon.

  • J B
    J B 5 gün önce

    Orville rules!

  • DBO PHX
    DBO PHX 5 gün önce +1

    Have not seen an episode of the Star Trek: Discovery and dont intend to, I started watching with TNG, did not like DS9 but loved Voyager, did not even question Janeway as a captain because right out the gates she was a bad ass with grace, decorum, and an attitude of "fuck with with my crew, enjoy a torpedo up your ass" I have only seen clips of STD and i was appalled, even with the new Star Trek Movies i gave some credit, but the show looks like a massive train wreck of SJW/NPC BS with the star trek name on it.

  • ardi kule
    ardi kule 6 gün önce

    The new Klingons are the only thing I like from STD. They're more menacing.

  • Ken Jett
    Ken Jett 6 gün önce +1

    I stand up and applaud this video this perfectly explains why i and most fans deplore STD and love the Orville. I am worried that CBS is on a mission to destroy the Star Trek Franchise.

  • Tromb Prognos
    Tromb Prognos 6 gün önce

    Lol it made me laugh how you camplained about STD not pleasing the male ego enough. that was pathetic

  • Lee Gray
    Lee Gray 6 gün önce

    Orville all the way !

  • gusy629
    gusy629 7 gün önce

    Captain Janeway was the best.

  • TheCrashingToaster
    TheCrashingToaster 7 gün önce

    Discovery is utter postmodern rubbish.

  • CringeWorthyCade
    CringeWorthyCade 7 gün önce

    Star Trek Discovery = STD = Sexually transmited disease

  • Bill Smith
    Bill Smith 7 gün önce

    To dispute the Chinese influence is to take on Firefly. No!!!!!!! A Chinese influence can be legit, bro.

  • •Φ•
    •Φ• 7 gün önce

    8:28 The Klingons are NOT Trumpsters,
    but some kind of Middle-Eastern race.
    Doesn't matter which, it's just offensive now.
    If I recall, in the original series Klingons represented Russians,
    and the Romulans were the Chinese.
    Spock, of course, was half-Japanese.
    It has always been a political show.

  • neil u
    neil u 7 gün önce

    its as if Penny from BigBangTheory wrote STD !!! No?

  • The Guy from Saturn
    The Guy from Saturn 7 gün önce

    Ahh Jar Jar Abrams. Singlehandedly (OK, he probably did get more than a little help) killed two beloved movie franchises. He's a weapon of mass franchise destruction.

  • Alan Baker
    Alan Baker 8 gün önce

    They should have had a female Captain like Kathryn Janeway on STD

  • Alan Baker
    Alan Baker 8 gün önce

    I've been a big Star Trek fan for nearly 20 years, but The Orville is so much better than Star Trek Discovery, better story lines better ships better everything

  • Troy Tempest
    Troy Tempest 8 gün önce

    Star Trek Disgracery

  • janinemccurdy78
    janinemccurdy78 8 gün önce

    Love The Orville!

  • Alex Pollock
    Alex Pollock 8 gün önce

    Also, the Orville’s third episode is all about how females are just as strong and smart as males. It’s definitely reminiscent to TNG

  • Justin Marong
    Justin Marong 8 gün önce

    It goes even further I've heard that next season on the Orville Jonathan Franks is going to direct an episode, also Marina Sirtis is going to be a guest star. The new trailer was absolutely amazing!!!!!!

  • zachary swanson
    zachary swanson 8 gün önce

    Because a actual fan is producing Orville

  • Fanhobby Friki
    Fanhobby Friki 9 gün önce

    Dyscovery is 1 h of idiological propaganda extreme left-wing progre and feminazi.

  • Wiebke K.
    Wiebke K. 10 gün önce

    Wait a minute, your channel analytics are not representative of all sci-fi fans. They're representative of what kind of audience you attract. I know of many women who like sci-fi. And even if way more men than women are into sci-fi, which I concede is currently probably true, maybe the reason for that is that sci-fi has always been marketed way more towards men and the main characters were always mostly male.
    Maybe the sci-fi industry is starting to realize that there is a much bigger market to be had, if they start marketing to women as well by showing female characters.
    Aside from all of that, I still agree that Discovery missed the mark in several regards and I enjoyed the Orville way more

  • Toney M.
    Toney M. 10 gün önce

    I cannot watch this Abomination. This isn’t Star Trek, no thank you I will just watch the old shows until they get their shit together. I don’t have a problem with the show existence, just the fact they try to pass this social justice, Uber forced political grandstanding, male bashing show as Star Trek. Call it something else because it’s not Star Trek.

  • Jim Beaux
    Jim Beaux 10 gün önce

    fortune cookies are not chinese. This placement would please no chinese.

  • Stephen Hornak
    Stephen Hornak 11 gün önce

    Why is it that nobody bashes Oroville for being Star Trek rip off

  • TransFembot 1000. MGTOW
    TransFembot 1000. MGTOW 11 gün önce

    J.J. Abrams ruined the franchise. Southpark should do an episode where he runs around with a flash light doing lens flares everywhere.

  • Voltaic Fire
    Voltaic Fire 11 gün önce

    Pandering to the Chinese is sickening. Just because there's money is no reason to support communism.

  • Voltaic Fire
    Voltaic Fire 11 gün önce

    Giving a female character a male name is incredibly stupid, there's no good reason in real life or in canon to do so. Vulcans aren't stupid or ignorant of human names.

  • Voltaic Fire
    Voltaic Fire 11 gün önce

    The Orville is a better Star Trek than Discovery, this is an indisputable fact.

  • Suave sailor
    Suave sailor 11 gün önce +2

    Its an abomination it should be stricken from Television, and burned. Gene Roddenberry is grabbing his head in pain watching them destroy his so loved creation. Hollywood has a long record ruining great classics. Star Wars, Ghost Busters, the Green Hornet, the Beverly Hillbilly's, there's more,but I'll stop there. I'm sure you got it.

  • Ted Phillips
    Ted Phillips 11 gün önce +1

    About the intro mentioning "leaving the toilet seat down". Never tell your wife/girlfriend the truth - you do it for the cat. Let's just say "All my exes are in Texas".

  • Peter F-Model
    Peter F-Model 12 gün önce +1

    Living in Japan i am use to reading subtitles (although I can understand Japanese most of the time) the best thing about the Klingon's was the fact they spoke Klingon - I loved it. Sadly it was the only thing i liked about Discovery. A one episode worth of story spanning the whole season, endless whining, arguments and teenage like behavior. I liked the Gabriel Lorca, but hated almost every other federation character. It was a real struggle to get though Discovery and was akin to extreme constipation. I knew i had to complete this, but was not enjoying it at all. 'IwlIj jachjaj The orville on the other hand, while not great, was an pleasure. I looked forward to watching each episode and while i did not like some, most were very entertaining.

  • Chase Salyer
    Chase Salyer 12 gün önce +4

    He forgot to mention that the biggest reason The Orville works is that Seth McFarlane is, himself, a Trekkie. He even guest starred in the occasional episode of Enterprise.

  • John Mullins
    John Mullins 12 gün önce +1

    The Orville puts Discovery to shame.

  • Ron Ryan
    Ron Ryan 13 gün önce +2

    I took a shit once that was more entertaining than STD. As a matter of fact I had an std that I liked more than STD.

  • Mark Gasto
    Mark Gasto 13 gün önce +2

    Fuck the critics, this sci fi series is the best thing to have happened in modern sci fi.... Discovery im sorry i was open to it but after i watched this series..i just realised just how much they destroyed the integrity of the original star trek vision( discovery i mean not Orville). This series does not even have to follow rodenberry vison but it is the closest series we have had to his vision since enterprise ended over 13 years ago. Seth you brought a much needed sci fi show to inspire us to hope for the best in the future when living in a time the future seems so bleak. :)

  • Octalogic Smith
    Octalogic Smith 14 gün önce +1

    One thing I do not like about discovery is they finally get a black female captain if she’s an asshole. I didn’t start like her until the last few episodes in the first season. Something that really pisses me off is that Star Trek instead of being after Janeway travel through the Delta quadrant it is stuck between I believe enterprise and next generation. I think I’m not even sure where if it’s in the timeline. It sucks because I grew up watching Captain Kirk when I was a little girl fell in love by the time we got to Jane way I was totally hooked. My husband makes fun of me because Every once in a while he’ll say oh are you watching Star Wars? And I will flip out I’m a Trekkie this is not Star Wars this is Star Trek! Anyway the Oreville is what STD should have been and it’s sad to watch this series diminish in such a fashion.

  • Mike Vasquez
    Mike Vasquez 14 gün önce +2

    Discovery reeks of corporate greed. Did they not think they would make enough money by simply putting it on the CBS proper? At least Fox had the decency to put the Oroville on a basic channel instead of using it as a launching platform for a streaming app. Michael Burnham is the vice Admiral Holdo of Star Trek except Holdo at least sacrificed herself and thus rid us of her stupidity.

  • Benjamin of Houston
    Benjamin of Houston 15 gün önce +1

    the harmonious crew seems to be the key. While it seems a little off to say so, the fact that everyone is a professional who even if they disagree, can work together, is key to Star Trek. If people are distracted by arguments in office politics, they're ineffective, and Star Trek isn't a ragtag militia or Rebel group like in Star Wars. They are a formal, professional military, and their actions should reflect that. It might sound small, but that mindset is key to the soul of Star Trek

  • Anthony Ngu
    Anthony Ngu 15 gün önce +1

    Outside of Burham being an insurbondinate hothead who shouldn't be a officer, all the other points are absolute bullocks.

  • christopher mills
    christopher mills 15 gün önce +2

    the Orville is better also due to some of discovery's bad issues as of late

  • James Trenoweth
    James Trenoweth 15 gün önce +1

    Conner is a pansie

  • chris lubuguin
    chris lubuguin 15 gün önce

    I would disagree with you. I liked ST: discovery more than Orville. Yes, in comparing the first 4 episodes of each show, the Orville is better. But after completing season 1 of both shows, I feel that Discovery became better with their stories. The Orville, for me, plateaued after the 4th episode. Don't get me wrong, but I was looking forward to watching the Orville when it came out. But as episode went on, the Orville became less funny for me. I vote for having STD on my idiot box anytime. :)

  • Paul King
    Paul King 20 gün önce +2

    I'm totally with you - I couldn't even get through the STD pilot as I hated it so much - it was so frigging dark too, I mean literally dark as though light bulbs were being rationed whereas The Orville is a true feast to the eyes with all the colours and beautifully designed set, props and costumes. I l❤️ve The Orville!

  • Stephen  Savage
    Stephen Savage 21 gün önce

    You chat so much shit mate

  • jason shirrill
    jason shirrill 22 gün önce +2

    Thank you Thank you Thank you you hammered the nail right on the head.

  • Bruce H
    Bruce H 23 gün önce

    I just don't see how a mockery of STTNG is better than the real thing.

  • Krimunk Morin
    Krimunk Morin 24 gün önce +1

    STD seems to have a pretty clear message that contributes nicely to the continuum.
    It goes like this: When you put multiple women in charge of starships, this leads to the deaths of many innocent lives, disastrous intragalactic wars and an uncomfortable work environment marked by constant bitching.
    So starfleet made the pivot to uber males like Kirk. This contributed heavily to the stability of the space government and the establishment of an expansive federation as new planets joined the federation with every shoreleave.
    It would only be 300 or so years before they came up with the technology necessary to offset female inferiority in the form of neurogell packs. Effectively the ships male brain would undermine the Janeways hyper aggressive female atitudes.
    Needless to say, the first tests of the technology were spectacular failures.
    It's god damned genius.

  • Joe Blazer
    Joe Blazer 27 gün önce +3

    Worf needs his own show. I'd watch the hell out of that.

  • TheAquabears
    TheAquabears 28 gün önce +2

    One of the things about Discovery that makes it unwatchable is the camera work. If it's not shakycam, it's dutch angles. And if it's not dutch angles, it's swoopy camera spinning for no good reason. Combine this with the underlit sets, and the propensity to backlight characters so they're lost in a glow of haze, and what you end up with is a barrage of disorienting visual noise. It's not just impossible to follow, it's amateurish. Shots should be chosen because they help tell the story, not just to show off how much money you can waste per second of screentime.

  • The Great Bootleg
    The Great Bootleg 28 gün önce +3

    Someone needs to partition to get STD cancelled.

  • Thatdeadguy20000 0
    Thatdeadguy20000 0 29 gün önce +2

    The Orville is a classic in the making

  • Utterly Perplexed
    Utterly Perplexed Aylar önce

    Spot on assessment... you’re also as sexy as hell! 😆

  • collegeman1988
    collegeman1988 Aylar önce +3

    I just started watching episodes of The Orville on Hulu and I have been pleasantly surprised, but in a way that I wasn’t expecting. I had thought The Orville would be a lot like watching the movie Galaxy Quest, but it isn’t. While the show does have some of Seth MacFarlane’s trademark humor, the show is often as serious as any good Star Trek episode.

  • collegeman1988
    collegeman1988 Aylar önce +1

    It’s interesting how comedians are now much better at giving us the news and entertaining us with science fiction than journalists and science fiction writers of today. STD was hijacked by SJWs.

  • LineOfCars
    LineOfCars Aylar önce +1

    Everything is better then Star Trek Discovery, I really wanted new Star Trek series, but after I seen most of first episode of that Discovery it was enough to regret wanting it, so I don't even consider it as real it's just rape of Star Trek name

  • Mr. smalls salt and viniger

    The orville is an amazing show but it still has that crappy humor McFarlane is known for but some of the jokes do land

  • Mr. smalls salt and viniger

    The orville is an amazing show but it still has that crappy humor McFarlane is known for but some of the jokes do land

  • Daren Johnston
    Daren Johnston Aylar önce

    you people are deranged Discovery is the best Star trek in so long and yes i have been watching Star trek since the beginning so what it breaks some rules but at the end of the day isn't Si fi about imagination not about following the boring rules of life change is always for the better . otherwise we keep doing the same things and that's insanity

  • David Lanzendörfer
    David Lanzendörfer Aylar önce

    Admiral Jonathan Archer introducing Captain Pike to his new command on the USS Discovery with Thomy Crafts cast ;-)

  • Austin Squires
    Austin Squires Aylar önce

    This dude is a trump supporter dislike his videos all I hear is about race this dudes got issues

  • Austin Squires
    Austin Squires Aylar önce

    There both great though

  • Robert McDonnold
    Robert McDonnold Aylar önce +2

    The orville is great but anything is better than discovery.

  • Klausbärbel Fömm
    Klausbärbel Fömm Aylar önce +2

    Nailed it. The more-than-aptly named STD is just more proof that whatever SJW morons lay their claws on immediately turns to toxic waste. The Orville, on the other hand, is essentially Galaxy Quest turned into an episode show: a reverential homage which, at the same time, is not above lovingly mocking its idol.
    As long as decent human beings of sound mind and loving heart preserve the spirit, those depraved, hate-mongering libtards can screech all they want.

  • Mark Compton
    Mark Compton Aylar önce

    THIS!!!!!! ALL OF THIS!!!!!!!!!

  • DARIVS ARCHITECTVS
    DARIVS ARCHITECTVS Aylar önce +2

    Star Trek Voyager might as well have been run by Kathleen Kennedy. IT STINKS of political leftism. The only people who can't see that are leftists.

  • Karen1963Yorks
    Karen1963Yorks Aylar önce +2

    Janeway was great. If you think the F?M ratio is bad in the first 4 episodes of Discovery you should see the manocide by the end.

  • Pharaoh of Kemet
    Pharaoh of Kemet Aylar önce +1

    No mention of DS9...

  • bsgfan1
    bsgfan1 Aylar önce +1

    Personally, I’ve always been more of a Star Wars fan. I remember when the Trekkies were laughing at us because of all the fan arguing after Disney took over. Then Discovery came out, and suddenly they weren’t laughing anymore 😆

    • bsgfan1
      bsgfan1 Aylar önce

      Klausbärbel Fömm Mine too. Unfortunately I could never get into Star Trek like I could with Star Wars. I watched TOS, TNG, and Voyager, but I just couldn’t take to it. I mean, I like Star Trek, and everything I like about Sci-Fi is there, but I still prefer Star Wars haha. When I first saw the Star Wars re-releases in 97, I was hooked immediately.

    • Klausbärbel Fömm
      Klausbärbel Fömm Aylar önce +1

      Star Wars was my first love. While I watched TOS a couple of years earlier, it never got to me like Star Wars did. But I fell in love with TNG (and, subsequently, DS9; Voyager and ST:E to a lesser extent) 15 years later. The toxic travesty that is STD makes me just as sad as the toxic travesty that is Soy Wars. I never got that self-limiting "either, or" mindset. Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Live long and prosper.

  • Theodore Seeber
    Theodore Seeber Aylar önce

    I was re-watching this. I think you've missed the purpose of Discovery: Section 31 is homosexual and gender bending and homosexuals are violent and they argue.

  • Golan Aldent
    Golan Aldent Aylar önce +1

    I dont mind the Klingon language. I dont mind the Chinese captain either, and its not hard to imagine that Chinese culture has spread around the universe like English culture had. Other then those two minor points I am in agreement here.

  • Wire Rubbish Bin
    Wire Rubbish Bin Aylar önce

    The Orville is a comedy and not very well acted. Discovery is drama and fairly well acted. I prefer the Discovery's scripting. And good god! Why are you whining about Michael's name? That's just sadly pathetic.

    • nox5555
      nox5555 12 gün önce

      +Wire Rubbish Bin there are plenty of female forms every language has its own, but michael is never used for females. the female name is never the same as the name of the Angel....Its was just a stupid idea to name her michael, but well it fits very good to the rest of STD, stupid names, stupid plots, stupid ships.
      also why is everybody so ugly in STD? star trek always had attractive male and female crewmembers, but not STD. KIrk and Uhura, Riker and troi, hairy kim and b'elanna, everybody on DS9,etc...

    • Wire Rubbish Bin
      Wire Rubbish Bin 13 gün önce

      +nox5555The name of David's wife was Michal not Michelle. I even quoted the reference for you. So stop playing around and admit that Michael is not exclusively male and even if it were so what? It doesn't invalidate the stories in ST Discovery. You're complaining for the sake of complaining.

    • nox5555
      nox5555 13 gün önce

      +Wire Rubbish Bin they dont use Michaela they use Michael, the male form.

    • Wire Rubbish Bin
      Wire Rubbish Bin 13 gün önce

      +nox5555 In the bible David has a wife named Michal … 1 Samuel 19:11 Saul sent messengers to David's house to keep watch over him, planning to kill him in the morning. David's wife Michal told him, 'If you do not save your life tonight, tomorrow you will be killed.'

    • nox5555
      nox5555 13 gün önce

      Its a male name... if you wanna play with names, dont use a name that has been used only for males for 2000 years.

  • Todd P.
    Todd P. Aylar önce +1

    WOW! You've nailed it with this video!!! I love your suggestion for the next Star Trek at 11:23!!!

  • Daniel Ross
    Daniel Ross Aylar önce +2

    Well I'm Totally Hooked on The Orville Now After Watching a Bit of it!😉

  • Anime Fan96
    Anime Fan96 Aylar önce

    Oh no. The little poor guy had to read sub titles. What a pain lol.

  • Shay Kilner
    Shay Kilner Aylar önce

    It’s not

  • fred6319
    fred6319 Aylar önce +1

    the captain of the discovery killed his crew by self destructing his ship and he was the only survivor and they gave him another ship??
    WTF this guy should have been commanding a mop and bucket

  • Stephen Molinares
    Stephen Molinares Aylar önce

    Oriville is ok but I much prefer discovery, and I grew up on Star Trek. Also discovery has lots of humorous moments so I have a hard time taking this review seriously

  • TheSaintST1
    TheSaintST1 Aylar önce +1

    Alex 'Curse' man.... ST:D is so, so, grim.......

    • nox5555
      nox5555 13 gün önce

      Its not. it just looks grim because of the stupid lighting and the effects. DS) is way more grim with genocide and warcrimes.

  • Gwiber WurmChild
    Gwiber WurmChild Aylar önce

    Fortune Cookies are not, Chinese. They are very, VERY, American.

  • Nicholas Vaters
    Nicholas Vaters Aylar önce

    hell they could do a fleet show today and it would be awesome.

  • Nicholas Vaters
    Nicholas Vaters Aylar önce

    I don't get the line trying to pretend the art of war is a lesser known thing. it's everywhere.

  • Nicholas Vaters
    Nicholas Vaters Aylar önce

    "...the entire crew..." would be hundreds.

  • Shyanne Wieringa
    Shyanne Wieringa Aylar önce

    STAR TREK DISCOVERY SUCKS

  • Entropy
    Entropy Aylar önce

    I love the Orville. As a Star Trek fan hungry for more, I find it really hits the spot. Among its many other problems, STD is a tedious and unnecessary lecture on social justice, and I find it exhausting to watch. I'm done with STD. Done.

  • Champis theBunny
    Champis theBunny Aylar önce

    How about this for a topic: Why watching paint dry is better than ST: Discovery.

  • Dalem Silas
    Dalem Silas Aylar önce

    The Orville it's poo poo.